Adam God Thinking ~ Studying Old Orthodoxy and New Orthodoxy of Adam and God Controversy

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For the development of both sides of the brain to produce Holistic thinking or DMP
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3 Nephi 12:3 3 Yea, blessed are the poor in spirit who come unto me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

3 Nephi 12:8 8 And blessed are all the pure in heart, for they shall see God.







Worlds without number reckoning

This Earth only reckoning
(still shot)

The "Brigham Young" version of the explanation of Adam's role
or the Eternal Proxy Subrogation version
or "Regents" version is necessary to develop the Right Side of the Brain,
or for the generalizing creative functions.
Inductive reasoning centered.

The "Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith" version of the explanation of Adam's role
or the Divine Investiture of Authority version
or "Agents" version is necessary to develop the Left Side of the Brain,
or for the logical rational functions.
Deductive reasoning centered.

First: based upon the theology of Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young;

Second: Scriptures.

First: based upon the Scriptures;

Second: World accepted Theology.

"Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many, I want to set forth in a plain and simple manner; but to us there is but one God--that is pertaining to us; and he is in all and through all. But if Joseph Smith says there are Gods many and Lords many, they cry, "Away with him! Crucify him!" Mankind verily say that the Scriptures are with them. Search the Scriptures, for they testify of things that these apostates would gravely pronounce blasphemy. Paul, if Joseph Smith is a blasphemer, you are. I say there are Gods many and Lords many, but us only one, and we are to be in subjection to that one, and no man can limit the bounds or the eternal existence of eternal time. Hath he beheld the eternal world, and is he authorized to say that, "there is only one God?" He makes himself a fool if he thinks or says so, and there is an end of his career or progress in knowledge. He cannot obtain all knowledge, for he has sealed up the gate to it. Some say I do not interpret the Scripture the same as they do. They say it means the heathen's gods. Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many; and that makes a plurality of Gods, in spite of the whims of all men. Without a revelation, I am not going to give them the knowledge of the God of heaven. You know and I testify that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods. I have it from God, and get over it if you can. I have a witness of the Holy Ghost, and a testimony that Paul had no allusion to the heathen gods in the text."
Joseph Smith Jr. --Taken from a meeting in the Grove, east of the Temple, June 16, 1844 D. H. C. 6:473-479

(Go Big Picture)

REPEATING AGAIN: "God is God. Christ is Christ. The Holy Ghost is the Holy Ghost. That should be enough for you and me to know. If we want to know any more, wait till we get where God is in person."~Wilford Woodruff 1895

(Stay Small Picture)

The Brigham Young version is like a movie with many frames, or many still shots presented in a flowing sequence. Adam is the common denominator of all the flowing frames. V (Insight) of Light

The Joseph F. Smith version is like a still snap shot of just one frame by which all the dynamics of eternity must be seen in one suspended frame. There is no sequence presented. └  (Intuition) of Truth


What is shared by both versions is the the concept of "common Father." ~reference Volume 6 Journal of Discourses page 348 and Volume 10 page 1-2

Volume 6 Journal of Discourses Brigham Young proclaims Common Father the Father of Jesus

Volume 10 Journal of Discourses Brigham Young proclaims Common Father the Father of Jesus

What differs concerning the common father is the identity of the common Father; though, in both versions there is the concept of "common Father."

We must see all in frozen frame at times; and also, we must see all in motion like a movie during other times. This is how we think or this is how we should think. This is how we synthesize and analyze. If you analyze this view of God only, you will experience cognitive dissonance till one can also synthesize.

Proxy work is the means by which these two views can be married together and/or viewed together at once for full mental development. (DMP) * see below

The tri-perspective third component is that we are Adam or a Michael ourselves, or ones to "become such," The Corpus Callosum of thinking, if we learn to THINK as in the following mystery:


"The greatest mystery a man ever learned, is to know how to control the human mind, and bring every faculty and power of the same in subjection to Jesus Christ; this is the greatest mystery we have to learn while in these tabernacles of clay."

2 Timothy 1:7-11 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but (the spirit) of power, and (the spirit) of love, and (the spirit) of a sound mind.

8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel: 11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.


REPEATING AGAIN: The Adam God Theory is disruptive to education that has been obtained through classic study. There is much less logical disturbance in learning it, if the learner is self-educated or self-taught. Creative thinking methods are required to understand the dual-perspective/tri-perspective thinking system embedded in the theory or doctrine as it were. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith Jr. were self-taught and self-educated to a greater degree. The principles learned through their type of self-teaching will be required to understand their point of view in this subject. Right Brain thinking is required along with Left Brain thinking. Understanding comes with the linking Corpus Callosum thinking--metaphorically speaking. Current modern education specializes in Left Brain thinking, typical of Orson Pratt/Joseph F. Smith. Education gained through formal method aside from self-teaching, setup the confounding of the mind with the Adam God Proposition, because classic formal education is externally conditioned learning.

Moses 1:33 33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.

Moses 1:34 34 And the first man of all men have I called Adam, which is many.

Moses 1:35 35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you.

Doctrine and Covenants 121:26 26 God shall give unto you knowledge by his holy Spirit, yea, by the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost, that has not been revealed since the world was until now;

Doctrine and Covenants 121:27 27 Which our forefathers have awaited with anxious expectation to be revealed in the last times, which their minds were pointed to by the angels, as held in reserve for the fulness of their glory;

Doctrine and Covenants 121:28 28 A time to come in the which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods, they shall be manifest.

Doctrine and Covenants 121:29 29 All thrones and dominions, principalities and powers, shall be revealed and set forth upon all who have endured valiantly for the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Doctrine and Covenants 121:30 30 And also, if there be bounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars--

Doctrine and Covenants 121:31 31 All the times of their revolutions; all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and set times, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fulness of times--

Doctrine and Covenants 121:32 32 According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest.

Doctrine and Covenants 121:33 33 How long can rolling waters remain impure?

What power shall stay the heavens?

As well might man stretch forth his puny arm to stop the Missouri river in its decreed course, or to turn it up stream, as to hinder the Almighty from pouring down knowledge from heaven upon the heads of the Latter-day Saints.

Doctrine and Covenants 121:34 34 Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen.

And why are they not chosen?